The INTERLOPER INVESTIGATION: THE FIRST THREAD
Archive of old and lost information regarding the Interloper Mystery
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What is this?
On October 14th, 2005, a community of Half-Life fans began a discussion that would kick off a 17 year long mystery. This discussion would happen at a particularly golden time for investigators of half-life 2 interloper, as a mere 2 years later, leads would seemingly dry up completely. Leads would become so dry in fact that many doubted whether or not the mystery existed in the first place.
PROJECT SKYBOX has spent the last few months compiling as many posts and as much media as possible from the original 34 page thread. There were probably 516 posts. (note: timezone of posts is PST)
Each post has been checked for validity by contacting some of the original posters. Posts that aren't 100% recoverable or speculated are listed with aliases
we have tried to recover as much thread media as possible, but some prominent files remain missing. if you have any information on these missing files, please send them to Anomidae
COLORS AND TERMINOLOGY:
OP - Original Poster of the thread
EXPERT - source engine modder/tinkerer with credibility at the time
ALIAS - stand-in for users who are unknown or opted to be anonymous
BANNED - post removed/poster banned
MISSING - post missing , sometimes with paraphrasing for what it may have said
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Posted 14-10-2005 1:04 AM
Joined June 2003
#1 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
anyone see that weird grafitti in ravenholm? its in the beginning part in the dark alley part, very creepy if you ask me. is this a glitch or what?? and when you walk up to it theres a weird noise, is this a gman?
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#2 BigBadWolfe
In the alley in the intro? what alley, the dark one or the one with a light in it? I checked both and didnt see anything
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined June 2003
#3 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
srry I dont know how to upload a screenshot but start chapter "we dont go to ravenholm" and instead of going straight go right to the stairs past the body and headcrab canister and look in dark corner with flashlight, there's a really creepy gman graffiti there. why would they put it in such a creepy dark place?
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#4 BigBadWolfe
oh yeah that one, it's nothing special, this is just another default graffiti like in the rest of the game. you can see this exact one everywhere, it's not special
plus they hid lots of weird graffitis like the combine evolution on the coast levels with the combine outpost, this one is probably just randomly thrown in, judging by how they put it inside the floor lol.
is it gman? idk maybe, but I think gman art shouldn't count as an actual gman sighting, then we'd have 5 million gmans in the game which would defeat the purpose :P
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined June 2003
#5 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
no this one is different, look at this screenshot for proof
there is the normal umbrella man graffiti but this one is unique because he has white eyes and no legs, like hes peering through. if you stand here for a while there are some noises too, definitely gman related sighting like the TV sighting in follow freeman
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined November 2002
#6 KODYK8
dude it's basically the same image lol we're really gonna be analyzing every pixel in the game if we keep getting threads like this
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined August 2004
#7 <s.t>Jman Expert
Not true Kody, we've basically already uncovered the entire game at this point, we've been examining it even well before it released
but this graffiti being unique is interesting, I'm loading up levels and seeing if it's being used anywhere else but haven't found it yet. very strange too how it's clipping in the floor like an afterthought, I'm still betting on this being an oversight rather than a deliberate gman sighting.Â
Posted 14-10-2005
Joined October 2003
#8 4four5five
very creepy 0.o just another reason to never play ravenholm again
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Posted 14-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#9 BigBadWolfe
can we just get a mapper to confirm if there's special map logic there or not???Â
Ravenholm isn't really that creepy, especially when you know where all the jump scares are... no idea why so many of you guys are so scared of some headcrab zombies in the dark XD
Posted 15-10-2005
Joined June 2003
#10 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
it's called atmosphere, and knowing that the level that your playing in was once a place where people lived normal lives... and now it's a run down shanty of sorts
its just such a creepy setting with so many little stories spruced in that make it feel very real...
Posted 15-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#11 BigBadWolfe
dude... realism like an FPS level XDDD
nobody lives in a video game level dude they were designed for you and I to play them and have fun, not for spooky ghost graffiti and pondering the swing sets. if that's what you want try the game Myst, Half-Life probably just aint for you XD
Posted 15-10-2005
Joined ???
#12 Gordon Freeman
I decided to dive a little deeper and I noticed that there actually is a full texture, it's just glitchy on the bottom. WTF 0_0
Posted 15-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#13 de_corpse
are u sure the texture is broken and not your disc/install?
Posted 16-10-2005
Joined ???
#14 Gordon Freeman
200% sure. my friend has the same error on his end too, totally different PC and game files. Maybe this was supposed to be a gman sighting but got broken before release.
Posted 16-10-2005
Joined November 2002
#15 KODYK8
ur literally analyzing the pixels as I predicted lol nothing to see here guys. go home gordon freeman ur drunk
Posted 17-10-2005
Joined August 2004
#16 <s.t>Jman Expert
What you're seeing there is a mipmap error, some textures in HL2 have it, it's an engine limitation.Â
I think this must have been a beta holdover or something because it literally only appears on town 01. I checked it for game logic or triggers but there's nothing here, so it's a weird texture at best, HL2 has plenty of these
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Posted 17-10-2005
Joined September 2003
#17 de_corpse
BUT THE PIXELS JMAN! THE PIXELS!!!!
Posted 17-10-2005
Joined June 2003
#18 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
but how can it be a coincidence with the strange sounds when you stand in front of it? the whole reason I even looked at it in the first place was because it made a sound that was like a scientist voice saying "oh little one, what now" or somethiong?
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Posted 30-3-2006
Joined August 2004
#23 <s.t>Jman Expert
OK WTF????
big WTF here guys. first off, sorry for the necro. second; turns out OP was really onto something here, not even kidding. this isn't a joke
so I was searching through the graffiti textures because I was making a level for my mod when I noticed that there was only one umbrella man graffiti in my files, which was weird because I remembered searching for the dark variant last year because of this thread
but I eventually found the file on an old machine of mine, and holy smokes it actually exists, it's called decalgraffiti308b. thing is I wrote it off as being a mipmap error but the actual file itself is corrupt for some reason
out of curiosity I dove into it with a hex editor to see if it's some kind of steam server error or something but I found there's a freakin' ASCII message embedded inside the image that says
"FOR J.J
CONSOLE: INTERLOPER
>>"UNKNOWN COMMAND: INTERLOPE
CONSOLE: GET S.INTERLOPE.PULL:27015"
this is why decalgraffiti038b is all glitchy on the bottom
Sounds unbelievable enough right? well for the hell of it I decided to type these into console just like this and it actually did something. like, it actually worked
seriously try it yourself it's super weird, it makes your screen flash and then sends you back to the main menu
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#24 justinLife
A little early for april fools? also did u really need to necro this thread or could you have just made a new post in spam for the joke :P just sayin, we should be discussin the game in these parts
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Posted 30-3-2006
Joined August 2004
#25 <s.t>Jman Expert
Because OP was right and I thought he deserved to hear me tell him I was wrong. I can make a new thread if needed
but I'm super perplexed by this... I'm typing the "get s.interlope.pull:27015" over and over and it's sending me to different maps every time I paste it. I can't control the game at all when it happens
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#26 justinLife
ur REALLY trying to tell me these are legitimate commands? because they aren't, that's not how commands in source work, dude
ur gonna make people waste valuable time opening the game just to see it was all a ruse XDD
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#27 JUDITH MOSSMAN
WTFFFFFÂ
I just typed this in and watched a cutscene of barney flailing around. it was super creepy. WTF WAS THAT
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined October 2003
#28 4four5five
0.0 Ok, that settles it, I'm never playing ravenholm EVER again
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#29 justinLife
pffft Ok, fine, I'm going to launch the game right now and if this doesn't work you guys are gonna be recieving some VERY colorful emails :)
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#30 justinLife
WHAT THE HELL ok it actually works this is huge. The interlope command doesn't seem to do anything but the get command does. wtf kind of easter egg is this???
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#31 Ugrox7
wtf it actually works.Â
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#32 7localsource
OMG I JUST DID IT AND BARNEY CAME OUT OF MY SCREEN AND DRANK ALL MY MILK
u guys are so gullible, why did you have to dig up some poor random thread for your dumb joke
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Posted 30-3-2006
Joined August 2004
#33 <s.t>Jman Expert
if the necro is a big deal I can make a new thread but dude this is real and it's huge it's not a joke. seriously try it yourself
I have no idea how to explain this. Here's a video as proof
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined June 2003
#34 |DeV1RTU0S0|x OP
Wow I haven't checked here in a while but thanks for letting me know this developed
what even is this? Is this actual gman lore or is this a glitch?
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#35 Ugrox7
I don't think this is a Gman, I don't even think this is intentional. It comes off as a weird glitch. I think what is happening here is when u type the commands in console it probably doesn't know what the message means and crashes the game back to main menu, or maybe it was an old command that ujsed to do something but now it just breaks?
it's very random, I just typed it in again and it put me outside the map for a few seconds then crashed to the main menu, see my video. I can't control or anything so it was just stuck
Posted 30-3-2006
Joined January 2005
#36 JUDITH MOSSMAN
Then y is it playing cutscenes that aren't in the game like a barney death scene???
Posted 1-4-2006
Joined January 2005
#37 7localsource
XDDDD judith mossman why are u talking about dying barney
Posted 1-4-2006
Joined August 2004
#38 <s.t>Jman Expert
every time I type in the commands I get different results... and they don't seem to repeat. Iv probably typed it a hundred times now and its all super random
Posted 2-4-2006
Joined September 2003
#39 de_corpse
this is for sure interesting but I think its time to burst your bubbles abt whats really happening here
I talked to my modding friend and he told me that this was a tool for testing the game to make sure it can load maps without crashing... back from the early early days of developing the source engine. he also told me goldsource has the same tool
its just a debug and testing tool like the sphere gun, its pretty neat though but every game on source has it not just hl2
Posted 2-4-2006
#40 Unknown User
not tru, I jus tried it in VTMB and it didnt do anything
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Posted 2-4-2006
Joined September 2003
#41 de_corpse
VTMB isn't a real source game...
Posted 2-4-2006
Joined January 2005
#42 7localsource
yes it is
Posted 2-4-2006
Joined August 2004
#43 <s.t>Jman Expert
yes VTMB is source, but this only happens in half life 2, its related to the gman easter egg
Posted 2-4-2006
Joined September 2003
#44 de_corpse
then where's Gman xP???
Posted 2-4-2006
Joined January 2005
#45 7localsource
we need to solve the mystery first, then we probably unlock a new level with gman
Posted 5-4-2006
Joined August 2004
#46 <s.t>Jman Expert
Ok, WTF WTF
I typed it in some more and the game started playing itself on the coast level. Except it was just doing stuff randomly like the game is haunted. WTFFFF
Posted 5-4-2006
Joined January 2005
#47 7localsource
0.0
Posted 5-4-2006
Joined ???
#48 Gordon Freeman
What. The. Hell. Is. This
this literally just happened. I got it on video. What the hell is this
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Posted 23-4-2006
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#89 Wallace Breen
Ok this is getting ridiculous, wtf is going on here
Posted 23-4-2006
#90 Unknown User
ok now ur just messing with us
Posted 23-4-2006
#91 Unknown User
WTF WAS THAT GMAN????
Posted 23-4-2006
Joined August 2004
#92 <s.t>Jman Expert
Woah, I think that tops misty lol that's crazy
Posted 23-4-2006
Joined January 2005
#93 7localsource
WHAT HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT
Posted 23-4-2006
#94 Unknown User
lol the filename "spookycoast" what an understatement
Posted 23-4-2006
#95 Unknown User
What the hell this is insanity...
Posted 23-4-2006
#96 Unknown User
could this be spirits? no joke guys, this looks like a haunted game or something... some nerd who died playing CS and is now haunting the source engine
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Posted 10-5-2006
Joined August 2004
#145 <s.t>Jman Expert
Found the mystery location of misty - it's not a new/beta map, this is actually the skybox of trainstation 03
Posted 10-5-2006
#146 Unknown User
XD are u guys like playing a weird new mod or something wtf is this
Posted 11-5-2006
Joined January 2006
#147 fstacxx
can someone explain to me what u guys mean by "type"?Â
Posted 11-5-2006
Joined January 2005
#148 JUDITH MOSSMAN
to answer your question, we consider there's 5 types of demos being generated
TYPE 1 is the demos where the character flips out and spins around wildly for a second or two. these are the most common, about 80% of them are like this
TYPE 2 is when the characters get stuck in the walls (like the one above) they are longer than type 1 but a bit more uncommon
TYPE 3 is the random gameplay demos where the character runs around and shoots randomly. they are very longÂ
TYPE 4 are the regular gameplay demos, probably testing or debugging that was in the game to begin with or demos built in to showcase the game. these ones are the most normal
TYPE 5 are the weird first person ones that look like they're from the eyes of an NPC but during a creepy cutscene. we think the cutscenes are randomly generated hence why they seem so weird
Posted 11-5-2006
#149 Unknown User
0.o can't believe u guys are still going at this. I seriously don't understand anything ur talking about
Posted 11-5-2006
#150 Unknown User
did u guys ever figure out where these are coming from?
Posted 11-5-2006
Joined August 2004
#151 <s.t>Jman Expert
Last theory fell apart so we really have no idea lol
Posted 11-5-2006
Joined January 2005
#152 JUDITH MOSSMAN
no we don't know yet
also Jman nice find, tho it makes me think we'll probably never get a demo as crazy as spookycoast and misty... this takes wayyy to long
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Posted 11-5-2006
Joined August 2004
#153 <s.t>Jman Expert
yeah, I'm still sticking to my guns that this is somehow related to how they trained half-life 2's AI to react to all sorts of situations (like how combine soldiers learn how to fight headcrabs and fast zombies and gordon)
I wonder if there is somehow we can get it to make a demo in a custom scenario, or if this is related to some leaked test maps?
Posted 11-5-2006
Joined ???
#154 Wallace Breen
it's possible, my theory is that I think it's supposed to be loading some kind of diagnostic map (like css and soundtest) but since they're long gone it's loading these instead?
in fairness we only have like 7 of these tops, there could be only a dozen or so cutscene demos meant to test things in game
Posted 13-5-2006
Joined August 2004
#155 <s.t>Jman Expert
maybe... but considering how well datamined this game is, these things would be found somewhere, unless they literally hard coded these cutscenes pixel by pixel lol
Posted 14-5-2006
Joined January 2005
#156 JUDITH MOSSMAN
I don't buy that theory, could explain type 1-3, type 4 and 5 are more weird and hard to explain with a simple code
Posted 14-5-2006
#157 Unknown User
and ur credentials for saying this are...?
have you ever even coded in your life to say such a sentence?
Posted 14-5-2006
Joined January 2005
#158 JUDITH MOSSMAN
I was literally among the first people to deconstruct the engine code and get it working after the leak lol.I know a "thing or two" abt source, and this is nowhere to be found in any leak content. If this is an intended feature it was 100% added sometime after the game came out
Posted 14-5-2006
#159 Unknown User
but how is that possible if this works on hl2x?
Posted 15-5-2006
Joined August 2004
#160 <s.t>Jman Expert
wait this works on hl2x????? since when
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Posted 12-1-2011
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#269 SchpennetP
lol wat even is this thread
Posted 12-1-2011
Joined February 2006
#270 max0708
old thread abt a glitch or something from ages ago, stop bumping it pls
Posted 21-11-2013
Joined July 2009
#271 Janimateur
did anyone ever figure out what was causing this glitch???